Top 10 Reasons Euthanasia Should be Illegal

Top 10 Reasons Euthanasia Should Be Illegal
Top 10 Reasons Euthanasia Should Be Illegal

Top 10 Reasons Euthanasia Should be Illegal

In recent decades, there has been much of talk regarding euthanasia, the practice of ending a life in a painless way. One of the greatest controversies surrounding the issue is whether or not it should be legalized. Euthanasia advocates require that euthanasia should be legalized as it helps hopeless patients end their suffering. They believe that people have the right to do whatever they want with their body, even if it means ending their lives to stop pain. But opponents of the practice argue that it should be outlawed. For them, while it seems that euthanasia has good intentions, people still don’t have the right to kill themselves. It is not only against the law, but also sinful in the eyes of our Creator. Apart from this, practicing euthanasia has a lot of undesirable and harmful outcomes. Here, I will give you the reasons why euthanasia should be prohibited worldwide.

  1. Euthanasia Is Murder.


Euthanasia Is Murder and Should Be Illegal Everywhere
Euthanasia Is Murder and Should Be Illegal Everywhere

Euthanasia, which comes from the Greek word eu thanatos meaning good or dignified death, is the conscious act of ending a life by withholding necessary treatment (passive euthanasia) or performing a procedure that directly and quickly causes death (active euthanasia). Although viewed by some as beneficial, both active and passive euthanasia are considered immoral, sinful, and in the same category as abortion – a murder.

Murder is the act of intentionally taking the life of one person. Opponents of euthanasia, especially Catholics, believe that the practice is wrong because it is murder. Since God is the One who created us, He is also the only One who has the right to take our lives away. In fact, the sixth of the Ten Commandments states “Thou shall not kill.” Therefore, any form of killing – regardless of motives – is not permissible.

The so-called mercy killing or assisted killing is condemned by the Church. Just recently, a Vatican official criticized the death of Brittany Maynard, a cancer sufferer who took her life in November 2014 by assisted suicide. Maynard suffered from a brain tumor and decided to die when her pain became unbearable. Monsignor Ignacio Carrasco de Paula, head of the Pontifical Academy for Life, said in an interview that This woman took her own life thinking she would die with dignity, but this is the error… Suicide is not a good thing, it is a bad thing because it is saying no to life and to everything it means with respect to our mission In the world and towards those around us.”

  1. Euthanasia Gives Too Much Power To Doctors To Kill.
Euthanasia should be illegal because it Gives Too Much Power To Doctors To Kill.
Euthanasia should be illegal because it Gives Too Much Power To Doctors To Kill.

Doctors are empowered by euthanasia. It gives them the opportunity to play God and most doctors, since many now more regard their profession as an occupation and not a passion, will seize this opportunity. This is especially true for those unscrupulous individuals.

Many of us are unaware that a lot of doctors today are taking self-interested shortcuts in order to earn more or make things happen their way. For instance, in case of delivering babies; some doctors coerce their patients in unnecessary caesarian sections on weekdays in order to guarantee an interrupted weekend for themselves. In other medical case, some doctors pressure their patients to undergo a surgery right away in order to finally get rid of the patients. Some do even push their patients to go towards vaccination or take a certain medication, even if it’s unnecessary, just to make more money. Why, then, would they never be tempted to kill someone in the quickest way if it will benefit themselves in the end – like avoiding the troublesome case or eliminating the hassle of dealing with importunate family members?

A perfect example of this would be Dr. Jack Kevorkian, a controversial pathologist, who took advantage of his patients’ agony and murdered them. According to reports, his goals were to popularize assisted suicide, to harvest organs for transplantation, and the most appalling of all, to experiment the sick and injured patients. Kevorkian claimed that he had helped 130 ailing people end their lives. Imagine? But what’s worse about it was that he created a machine for suicide, which was called a “suicide machine,” that allowed sick people dispense a lethal dose of medication to themselves by pressing a button. Later, the lunatic was convicted for second-degree murder, but unfortunately, he was not the only one who practiced this. In Netherlands, where euthanasia is allowed, thousands of people are killed each year “without request or consent.”

Doctors, like any other humans, are lazy, selfish, and weak to temptations. In pressing situations, doctors are likely to commit mistakes and make wrong decisions. Therefore, euthanasia should not be legalized. As Dr. Peter Saunders, a general surgeon and CEO of Christian Medical Fellowship, has written: “Voluntary euthanasia makes the doctor the most dangerous (person) in the state.”

  1. Euthanasia Destroys Patient Trust In The Medical Profession.
Euthanasia should be illegal because it Destroys Patient Trust In The Medical Profession.
Euthanasia should be illegal because it Destroys Patient Trust In The Medical Profession.

Doctors are the people we turn to when we are sick, weak, and in pain. They are the people who we trust and look to for guidance and advice about our health. We regard them as someone who can cure and save our lives. After all, that’s their primary objective – to save, and do no harm. But what if you have an illness, and you found out that the doctor you trust your life to actually practice euthanasia? Would you still visit him and follow his recommendations? If you will ask me… no.

When I go to the hospital or clinic, I want to make sure that my doctor will do everything that he or she can to keep me alive. I do not want to go to someone who thinks that maybe I would prefer to give up life. Doctors went through extensive training in order to ensure that they can provide safe and high quality healthcare to their patients. They even took an oath to treat their patients in the best of their ability. Their job is to take the pain out of their patients, and not to put their patients out of existence.

Legalizing euthanasia or assisted suicide will not only give patients a hard time to trust those who are in the medical field, but it will also make them more worried, especially when they go to a hospital with a doctor who is thinking about whether or not to make them alive.

Indeed, euthanasia or assisted suicide destroys trust between the patient and the physician.

  1. Euthanasia Undermines Medical Research.
Euthanasia should be illegal because it Undermines Medical Research.
Euthanasia should be illegal because it Undermines Medical Research.

I understand why some people desire to kill themselves. The pain is, sometimes, just too much to the point that it is no longer bearable – that you would rather die than to feel it over and over again. But one thing that many people, especially those who support euthanasia, should realize is that there is a cure to illnesses – no matter how worst they are. Even if some of them are not yet discovered, in time, they will become available. Just think about this: Years ago, we didn’t have medicines, such as pain relievers and antibiotics; we also didn’t have instruments and machines to treat patients. But because of advanced research and great desire of our people to prolong life, we were able to discover them. And now, millions of sick people are getting benefits from them – many are even being saved because of them.

In order to discover more effective medicines and treatments, especially to serious conditions, such as cancer and liver disease, our scientists and inventors should be able to focus more in their studies. The government should also continue funding their research in order to get more effective findings. If the focus changes from treating the illness to killing the patients, the progress that our researchers is making to alleviate pain as well as their motivation to provide treatment for sick patients will be compromised. Rather than doing their best to search for better solutions, they will be discouraged because they know that a quick and painless solution is already available – which is killing. Doctors and other healthcare providers will also be less committed to provide palliative care and save lives because they have a “legal right to kill.”

  1. Legalization Of Euthanasia Sends A Message That Life Is Not Worth Living.
Legalization Of Euthanasia Sends A Message That Life Is Not Worth Living
Legalization Of Euthanasia Sends A Message That Life Is Not Worth Living

Advocates of euthanasia often say that euthanasia is a way to “die with dignity.” But this is wrong. Euthanasia is killing and destroying a life. Accepting what life has brought to us, as well as fighting to the end, no matter how hard or painful the battle is, and waiting for death to come naturally is how you truly die with dignity. Legalizing euthanasia and convincing people that they should kill themselves to end their suffering is like saying that their lives are no longer worthy to be saved – that “it is better for them to be dead than to live.”

Remember, every life here on Earth, including the life of those people with disabilities, injuries, and life-threatening conditions, is valuable. There’s a purpose why all of us are alive today. So ending the life of a suffering person is truly unethical. If you think that ending the life of a suffering person helps them, you’re wrong. It only communicates hopelessness and unworthiness. True compassion means finding ways in order to alleviate pain and ease the suffering, as well as showing love and care to the person. It also means not giving up, no matter how difficult the situation is. And finally, it also means keeping the people you care for alive and protecting them from those who could harm them.

Life is beautiful. If we can only convince those “hopeless patients” that there are so many reasons to live for, they will no longer consider euthanasia.

  1. Legalization Of Euthanasia Changes Public Conscience.
Society must be responsible Legalization Of Euthanasia Changes Public Conscience.
Society must be responsible Legalization Of Euthanasia Changes Public Conscience.

The law is a powerful tool that can be used to change our beliefs, behavior, and conscience. When a practice becomes legal and widely accepted, it becomes right in the eyes of the society. Even if it is against our personal preference and principle, we eventually practice it and believe that it is perfectly okay. People trust the law because they believe that it is the best for the people – they believe that the law is always right.

One case that demonstrates how law can affect the culture and public conscience was the assisted killing of the twin brothers, Marc and Eddy Verbessem. The two were born deaf and sought euthanasia after discovering that they would also soon go blind from another congenital disorder – a form of glaucoma. According to the Daily Telegraph, their local hospital had refused to carry out the procedure because the twin was neither suffering extreme physical pain nor terminally ill.

Euthanasia is legal under Belgian law if a patient is able to make their wishes clear and suffering unbearable pain, based on a doctor’s judgment. Critics point out that the twin brothers were not suffering unbearable pain, but Professor Wim Distelmans, a right-to-die activist, took the decision to euthanize them. He even defended his decision and said, “There was certainly unbearable psychological suffering for them. Though there is of course it always possible to stretch the interpretation of that. One doctor will evaluate differently than the other.” Dr. David Dufour, the doctor who presided over the euthanasia even said, “…It was a relief to see the end of their suffering.”

Then just days after the Verbessem brothers were killed by their doctor, Belgium’s ruling Socialists tabled a new legal amendment that will allow children and people suffering from dementia to seek permission to die.

This just shows that once the society started to see that killing is okay, it is possible for people to do it without feeling any guilt.

  1. Legalization Of Euthanasia Leads To More And More Killing.
Legalization Of Euthanasia Leads To More And More Killing.  It gives Doctors a license to kill.
Legalization Of Euthanasia Leads To More And More Killing. It gives Doctors a license to kill.

Opponents of euthanasia argue that legalizing euthanasia would lead society down a dangerous “slippery slope.” Once euthanasia is legally permitted, people will start to agree that suicide is the legitimate solution to life’s problems. Instead of being just an option for those who are suffering from chronic illnesses, it would eventually become part of the social norm with killing being permitted for everyone, even for children, elderly, depressed, and even for those who do not and cannot make such a request to die.

The Dutch experience with euthanasia is one proof of the reality of the slippery slope. Since euthanasia became legal in Netherlands, the number of euthanasia deaths has been substantially increased. In 2006, there were only 1,923 reported euthanasia deaths in Netherlands. In 2007, the number increased to 2,120. And in 2011, almost 4,000 physician assisted deaths were reported. Studies estimate that this figure will likely to increase significantly over the next few years.

Well, those figures truly sound bad, but those are only a part of the story. What’s worse is that some of these people die from involuntarily euthanasia, which means doctor killed them “without their consent.” Reports also say that more than 50 percent of euthanasia deaths are not reported. Critics claim that the actual number of deaths from assisted killing would probably much higher than the statistics seems to show. And what’s more alarming is that the development of Dutch euthanasia law. Before, euthanasia was only allowed in Netherlands for people who are suffering from chronic and unbearable illnesses. But now, such action is already permitted even for people who are suffering from dementia, for people over 70 who feel tired of life, for severely handicapped individuals, and even for those who are suffering from mental illness.

I believe that if euthanasia will be legalized in the entire country (worse, in all parts of the world), killing will be the norm.

3. Euthanasia Encourages Vulnerable People To End Their Lives.

Euthanasia should be illegal because it Encourages Vulnerable People To End Their Lives.
Euthanasia should be illegal because it Encourages Vulnerable People To End Their Lives.

Euthanasia advocates promote the legalization of euthanasia as they believe that it is a way to protect “vulnerable people” from wrongful death and provide suffering patients their desired, peaceful “death with dignity.” Opponents of the practice counter this with the defense that legalization of euthanasia doesn’t protect vulnerable people, rather it pressures them to make decisions unilaterally.

If euthanasia is available, sick and dependent people will be pressured to choose death, rather than suffer and become a burden to their families. Yes, people who are dependent and ill often feel worthless and burden to their families. Since their body is so weak to work, they are not able to help and contribute to their families and communities. This makes them often feel worthless and useless. And this is the very reason why so many suffering people wish to die. But luckily, euthanasia is not yet permitted in most parts of the country and other parts of the world. But if it’s already available, no one can already stop these people from requesting assisted death. Patients and people with disabilities and problems will think that euthanasia is the only solution.

  1. People Who Request Mercy Killing Don’t Actually Want To Die.
People Who Request Mercy Killing Don’t Actually Want To Die.  They are caught in a web of self deception.
People Who Request Mercy Killing Don’t Actually Want To Die. They are caught in a web of self deception.

In tough moments, especially in the presence of death, patients are highly vulnerable. They lack the knowledge and strength to understand entirely their situation, which usually affects their decisions.  Many people think that the main reason why patients seek for physician assisted death is because of the pain associated with the illness, but the truth is it’s the fear of the unknown. They are terrified about the possible consequences of their illness, including the possibility of surviving without actually living and most of all, its impact to their families. In a survey conducted in Oregon, USA, 66 percent of people who requested euthanasia did so because they didn’t want to be a burden.

Obviously, no one wants to be a burden to their families, friends, and communities. But it’s also true that no one wants to die. Those people who say “let me die,” usually don’t mean what they say, and in fact are thankful when their request is denied.

The practice of euthanasia is an unwise and wrong choice. Sure, having an illness and being born with disability is tragic, but killing them is not the answer to their problem. What these people need is love and support from their friends, doctors, especially from their families. If these people will only see that we are caring for them and valuing their lives, they will be encouraged to continue life, no matter how painful it will get.

Just look at Ludwig van Beethoven, Sudha Chandran, Tanny Grey-Thompson, and the famous Albert Einstein, as well as Sheryl Crow, Anne Romney, and Hugh Jackman – all these people suffered from life-threatening diseases and disabilities, but they still have contributed to the society and never thought about killing themselves. All these people encountered pain, but they never considered euthanasia as an answer – because it is not!

  1. Euthanasia Is Unnecessary As There Are Many Better Alternatives.
Euthanasia should be illegal because it  Is Unnecessary As There Are Many Better Alternatives.
Euthanasia should be illegal because it Is Unnecessary As There Are Many Better Alternatives.

People believe that when you are diagnosed with a terminal illness, you only have two choices to choose from – either die slowly in pain or die quickly with euthanasia. Well little do they know that there is another option that sick people can choose – and that is love and competent caring. As mentioned, the greatest fear of those who are diagnosed with disease is not the physical pain, but the fear of being regarded as a burden and abandoned by their families.

As what Dr. Richard Lamberton said, “Once a patient feels welcome, and not a burden to others; once his pain is controlled and other symptoms have been at least reduced to manageable proportions, then the cry for euthanasia disappears. It is not that the question of euthanasia is right or wrong, desirable or 76 repugnant, practical or unworkable. It is just that it is irrelevant.”

In addition, suffering people don’t really want to be euthanized. Although it can give them their desired peaceful death, they still don’t really like the idea of going through it. Sometimes, their decision-making is just influenced by their physicians. In a 2001 interview with Dr. Joke Groen-Evers, a Dutch physician and former supporter of euthanasia, she admitted that before, she always brought up the subject of euthanasia when talking with her terminal patients. And according to her, 9 times out of 10, her patients would request for it. But when she changed her mind and started to promote good palliative care, she never used the E-word anymore. And the result is no one asks for it anymore! She said that, “…If you mention euthanasia, they will ask for it. If you mention palliative care, then that is what they will choose.”

What do you think?  Do you agree? Disagree?  Let us know in the comments.

And don’t miss’s opposing view:  Top 10 Reasons Euthanasia Should Be Legal Everywhere

  • Amy

    I don’t think the argument “the creator” should be made when determining government policy. Unless this concept of a being can materialize and vocalize its wishes to us we can’t even confirm it’s presence. In the mean time leave your God within the confines of your church.

    • Willam Nat

      Everyone has a right to their opinions and everyone has a right to mention their religious beliefs —- just like you have a right to mention you don’t have any.

      • Terramort

        Except when those beliefs let them choose euthanasia, right? Then your beliefs are superior.

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  • Brian

    This is idiotic. Honestly, whoever wrote this should be ASHAMED.

    • Willam Nat

      Guess what . . . . just because you emphatically state something, it doesn’t make it true.

      • Terramort

        Says the one defending an article with a basic point of “yeah, well, people who say they want to die don’t actually mean it!!”

  • Kenny

    Dang these reasons are so weak that I can’t even take them seriously. Once you started mentioning a creator and completely disregarded that not everyone might believe in one then I knew that this was not going to be convincing at all. Next time try using some more practical reasons instead of what your personal perceptions and beliefs are.

    • listland

      Dang! You must hate the Creator. Well you’ll like this:

    • Willam Nat

      Then take out those parts . . . the arguments are still overwhelmingly powerful even if you seek to trivialize them.

      • Terramort

        What? Your arguments basically boil down to, “Yeah, well, people who say they want to do die don’t actually mean it, and besides, we can cure everything, right?”

        This is some logic I’d expect out of a 5 year-old’s mouth. You don’t want people telling you, “You have to believe in evolution because it’s scientifically proven!” You want the the right to have your beliefs respected.

        So when someone else is literally wishing they could die instead of living with continual suffering, maybe you should take a quick moment and think, “You know, I’m not them. It doesn’t make sense to me, but I respect that person’s decision as a human being.”

        Just like you expect everyone to do to you.

  • Keith

    glick grick fart

  • Somebody once told me

    This is a joke. There’s a difference between suicide for mental reasons that could be cured than “suicide” for physical reasons that can’t be cured. These people are sick and in unending pain who had come to the doctor to get cured and cared for but when the doctors had done almost everything to help them stay comfortable, there’s nothing else to do. Suddenly, the doctor says “there’s one last thing we can do… I’m sorry… We can euthanize you”. The patient is in such pain he accepts the offer. He doesn’t want to wait to slowly die in agony. Now imagine you controlled the law and made it illegal. The doctor says “there’s nothing we can do…” and walks away letting the poor person suffer for God knows how long in utter pain because you think that letting someone who’s suffering to die is immoral or a sin.

    • LOJ

      Even for mental reasons. That’s a misconception that mental illness is curable. In fact, it can be just as painful as any other illness. sure the pain isn’t the same but pain is pain. Furthermore, mental illness can have painful physical symptoms. The writer of this article must not know what it is to live without an option.

    • Willam Nat

      The pro-euthanasia person who replies to you here (LOJ) puts the lie to your argument. He/she is in favor of killing people who are mentally ill too. Read that comment. See the slippery slope?

      • Terramort

        “He/she is in favor of killing people who are mentally ill too”

        Boy, you are desperate to be right, regardless of if you are actually correct. Putting words in people’s mouth like that, just wow.

        Slippery-Slope is a logical fallacy. Anyone worth his or her salt in the journalism field knows that. Pathetic that I see you touting it like some sort of badge. Not only are you incapable of responding to comments, but you fall so far as to rely on others to defend your article for you, and cry “slippery-slope!” for anything else.

  • Sylvia Koszegi

    I am doing a debate in class and we had to pull out of a hat what our topic was and what side we had to be on. I got put on the con side so i don’t agree with euthanasia. This website was so helpful and it was perfect. Thank you!!!

  • Terramort

    1. Euthanasia is not murder. Killing in the military is not murder. Murder: “the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.” Twisting word meanings to try and prove a point? Grow up.

    2. Trumped up fallacies. If doctors are ruthless enough to kill patients to get a free weekend, what makes you think they won’t keep patients alive but suffering, so they keep paying bills?

    3. Euthanasia doesn’t destroy patient trust in the medical system. Doctors that tell you “sorry, you have 5 months of terribly agonizing pain left to live, and no, you aren’t allowed to die early and quit giving me money!” destroy patient trust.

    4. “Euthanasia undermines medical research.” Really? Why don’t you just go ahead and sign up with the Nazi’s, so you can can further play with human pain and tolerances for “science”. That’s why we know so much about hypothermia.

    5. I don’t even know why I bothering with you anymore. In your tirade for moral supremacy over your fellow human, you are telling me that those twins should have been forcefully kept alive, even with nothing to live for.

    Who died and made YOU God? Who are you to say weather someone is ready for the next great journey or not? Not only do you think you are so high and mighty as to tell others how to live their life, you go so far as tell them they HAVE to live their life.

    Clearly you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. If someone only has terrible pain and suffering to look forward to in life, it is not in your place to tell them they must live through it. The level of pompous know-it-all oozing through your… work of journalism… is making me sick.

    • Cam

      Well said, and what is life if you cant live it!!!!!

  • Cindy Joywell

    Listen Terramont are whoever you are, have you ever been in this situation or position where you are facing life and death? Because most likely you haven’t or you would have said so otherwise. Euthanasia is a cowardly way out. I am a mother of two with cancer that I will most likely not be able to recover from. Euthanasia makes you feel the need to make your complicated life easier on others which is not what it should be for. Euthanasia takes away the value of a human life and makes it into something like play-doh, where we can just mold it into whatever we want and throw it away when we’re bored of it. Who are we to play God? He put us on this Earth and it will be him who takes us away. So in your own words, “Grow up.”

    • Boo!

      • Unknown

        whoever “listland” is, shut up.. if you don’t give a F about what others say, don’t bother replying to someone who wants to stick up for what they believe in.

  • Cam

    What a crock ……

    Firstly the creator has no say in this matter, we as individuals all obide by our own set of values and beliefs and by bringing god into any argument that should be based on science indicates that there is a lack of evidence either way. Cindy Joywell, who are we to play god? Whose god is that and if i’m an atheist then you are not respecting my rights as a human to have choice you are forcing your narrow minded and gullible beliefs onto others (but thats another discussion).

    This article totally ignores the rights of an individual to end their own life and while i don’t condone suicide if i was on my death bed in pain and causing pain not only to myself but also to my loved ones as they watched me perish i would want the choice to make the hard decision. Call me weak call me ignorant but its my life so it should be my decision.

    All of the arguments above have an equal and opposite, yet compelling argument as to why euthanasia should be legalised so again it comes down to the real issue and that is giving the individual freedom of choice. If you don’t believe in euthanasia that is your value and your belief, you can suffer in your sick bed while your gods look down at you and laugh at the obedience of his disciples. However if on the other hand you have different values and beliefs or you follow a god who welcomes your decision to leave this earth then let that be the decision of the individual.

    Its about time minority groups and busy bodies stopped sticking their noses into other peoples business and left well alone.

  • vanshikav03

    so if your loved one was dying with an illness with only

  • vanshikav03

    this is retarded

  • prochoice

    i believe it should be legal because you have the right to CHOOSE therefore if you don’t agree with it, don’t do it. but don’t take that right away from the people who do agree. i’m pro choice.

  • dfsf

    This has yet to be the worst piece of arguments against suicide and euthanasia from a very ignorant stand point.

    • dudfhdgfhg

      acutally you are wrong mr. dfsf euthanasia is a sin agaist God and should be illegal. god doesn’t want us to kill our older family members he wants us to protect them

      • Sushis little world

        Actually god doesn’t matter when people are suffering, didn’t god do this to them. They should have the right end their suffering shouldn’t they?

  • This it the worst article ive ever seen, quick tip dont put your own opinion in an article like this especially a religeous opinion.

    • __

      but you just put you own opinion in this…..

  • Jishnav Iyer

    I think firstly your God argument is meaningless, as you have no evidence to show god even exists, and now you’re telling me what god has to say about suicide, and how i should live my life according to the wishes of your imaginary friend.
    Secondly, to me all this article seems to say is euthanasia is bad because if it becomes legal to take your life, everyone who is suffering will just take their life. But that’s kind of the point. And no, everyone will not start taking their lives because as you yourself pointed out, most people don’t actually want to die. But people who are under pain should be allowed to choose what to do with their body or their life (not your god, or anybody else’s imaginary god).
    Instead of illigalizing euthanasia, we should just discourage it. And if if you are arguing that euthanasia will be misused, come on, EVERYTHING will be misused by someone. Freespeech can be misused, a kitchen knife can be misused. It doesn’t mean we illigalize it.

  • rishabh iyer

    it seems the only reason you wrote this article is to prevent it’s readers from killing themselves. Strange paradox you were working on here. I guess that makes you an artist 🙂

  • Martin

    Dave should not be allowed to post artticles out there. you know, like I, in pain, in Daves view should not be allowed to make choices over my own life and whether its still worth being here. its pointless wasting time on my response – bottom line, Dave is an IDIOT and quality of the article shows his lack of empathy. Sure Dave thinks I am an idiot too, for reaching a pain threshold to allow the idea of “life itself” as an option in my choices. Yes Dave, it ADDS to my choices